I had a great time at the 2008 RPCA convention. I'll write more, but first, news of three regulations I've recently become aware of.
First, cars with fluorescent lighting are affected by the Federal Ballast Energy Law (public law 100-357) of 1988, part of the National Appliance Energy Conservation Amendments (NAECA '88), and the National Energy Policy Act of 1992 (EPACT '92.) This means the original ballasts and T12 bulbs are typically no longer manufactured. Compatible T10 bulbs, or T12's with altered chemistry, are listed as being able to use the existing ballast. Another alternative is replacing both ballast and bulb with T8 equipment.
Second, I've been hearing about a new Federal EPA rule, to take effect in 2011, which many automotive hobbyists feared would end sale of automotive finishes to anyone not owning a $100,000 paint booth. The final rule appeared in the January 9, 2008 Federal Register. It is now part of Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Part 63. This rule does apply to railroad rolling stock, but there are several exemptions for the hobbyist.
Third, at the RPCA conference, Harold Weisinger of Amtrak announced that, in the absence of any current standards for propane fuel supplies on passenger cars, effective April 1st (?) Amtrak will no longer accept cars with propane equipment, unless that equipment is deactivated.
One treat, while at the RPCA convention, was being allowed to take pictures of Great Northern 1116, one of two GN International coaches owned by the Lake Superior Railroad Museum. Like 1146, 1116 was built by ACF in 1950 for the Seattle-Vancouver Internationals, and it has examples of many of the small hardware items 1146 is missing.
I also enjoyed the vendor room. Several vendors I've done business with before were there, and a couple new ones as well. I got to meet Mr. Stauffer, of Stauffer Diesel Co. (Stadco generators.)
The last Sunday in January was unbelievably warm. I opened the garage door and spent the afternoon doing parts work.
One project was filling all the little dings and dents in the men's room door. (Still stripping the women's.) For sanding, I've found a Porter-Cable profile sander with vacuum attachment which gets into corners nicely. | |
Another was turning 1/2" sheets of Medium-Density Overlay (MDO) into imitation restroom corners. Admittedly a waste of time, my purpose is three-fold: Experiment with MDO as a wall material (as was done in the restoration of NYC "Hickory Creek"), keep restroom parts together so they don't get lost, and pre-assemble the plumbing. | |
I also tried a stainless cleaner on a lavatory surround. The product is Stainless Clean, from Walter, which I found at Mississippi Welders Supply. It can be used in food plants, but read the MSDS. | |
This is cool: A Great Northern placemat I found on e-bay. It's colorful enough, I could see getting reproductions made for a dining service. |
I just updated the Parts Wanted page, taking advantage of the 1116 pictures and other recent finds. Please visit and, if you have anything that will help restore 1146, drop me a line!
I've also added a Seminars page, which has the slides from the seminars we presented at the 2008 RPCA conference. It joins the Tech Pubs page, which has the technical publications scans which were on the CD we handed out. All of this information is presented as a service to others who are restoring and maintaining this neat old equipment. I don't profit in any way, and the equipment and publications are no longer available from the manufacturers.
Puttying dents in restroom doors and cleaning lavatory surrounds continues. I've decided the solvent-based putty has two problems: It shrinks as it dries, making numerous coats necessary, and it stinks. I'm told that lightweight polyester putty - a variation on Bondo - doesn't suffer the shrinkage problem so the job is done more quickly.
Collision post engineering progresses. From time to time my engineer has a question, which I try to get answered in a timely fashion. (Editorial - he probably doesn't think I'm very quick.)
If you wonder why I'm not getting much done on 1146, here's the answer. Over 50 hours on MTM's GN 1213 in February alone. We're having to replace much of the sheet metal around the BR vestibule steps. I think I went a little nuts with the simulated rivets... | |
1213 and 1146 were both built by ACF for the GN, one year apart. Structurally they are almost identical. That's handy for me, as any problem solved on 1213 applies to 1146 as well. Lucky for MTM that 1213 is in much better shape - there were still large areas of primer in the areas I painted black (POR-15,) and check out that collision post! |
Engineering is complete for the collision post repair, and a copy of the drawings and existing material analysis has been sent to Harold Weisinger at Amtrak. It will take me a little while to digest and understand the next step.
I found another correct Kitchen ceiling light lens on eBay.
GN 1213's imminent paint job has had me studying paints. Many happy hours were spent reading about DuPont's Duco, DuLux, and Imron products. The chemistry is fascinating. (Did you know Duco - the oldest - is a chemical cousin to gun powder?) I compared PPG and DuPont automotive finishes, DuPont's industrial Imron 333M - which I have used to touch up locomotives after repairs, and ultra-low VOC water-borne finishes. I concluded that DuPont's Imron 3.5 HG (formerly 333M) would give a very durable high-gloss finish at a competitive price. Admittedly, my prior experience with 333M and some bad experiences with cheap urethane enamels have created a bias. Happily, DuPont has eliminated lead and chromates from the formula. I opted against a basecoat/clearcoat system, because with the square footage of a passenger car, time constraints, and a naturally dusty environment, the chances of making the clearcoat stick seemed low.
Once the finish paint was chosen, using the recommended primer is natural. I selected DuPont's Corlar 2.1 ST epoxy primer, in stock color "Clay Tan". Epoxy primers work well for sealing bare metal surfaces, and "Clay Tan" was closest to the Gold and Gray pin stripe colors, which will be applied first. On DuPont's recommendation, it will be thinned 10% to 20% to avoid an orange-peel texture.
Google searches:
Tan-colored 3M automotive seam sealant 08300 will be used to caulk all exterior seams (namely around rooftop vents) before spraying the primer.
In the past, MTM has used 3M Scotchlite Gold (580-64) and White (680-10) for the pin stripes and lettering. Shelf life is two years (or it will peel) so any stock on hand is useless. A fellow volunteer and retired 3M employee has tried to locate a source, but apparently it is out of production? Update: A local sign/graphics company can still get it, so I suspect 580 is replaced by 680.
Our upper-midwest DuPont sales rep., Mr. Thomas R. Kluver, has been absolutely wonderful. Armed with only four DuLux paint codes from 1951, he had people at corporate cross the colors to the current Imron 3.5 HG base. Then he had paint chips made, and supplied tech specs and material safety data sheets.
Primer:
Color | Corlar 2.1 ST | Sq. Ft. | Gallons | $/gal | Ext. |
Clay Tan | LF63525P | 2500 | 6 | $51.10 | $306.60 |
Hardener | VF525 | 2500 | 6 | $51.10 | $306.60 |
Reducer | Y32035 | 2500 | 3 | $20.20 | $60.60 |
Total | $673.80 |
Finish colors:
Color | DuLux | Imron 3.5 HG | Sq. Ft. | Gallons (Short) | $/gal | Ext. |
Pullman Green | 88-4558 | 1547-42P | 2150 | 5 | $97.00 | $485.00 |
Omaha Orange | 88-35617 | 31U-42P | 290 | 1 | $123.00 | $123.00 |
Imitation Gold | 95-056 | 3292-42P | 42 | 0.75 | $59.50 | $44.63 |
Aluminum Grey | 88-8343 | 38N-42P | 21 | .25 | $51.70 | $12.93 |
Hardener/Activator | VGM6005 | 7 qt. | $27.80 | $194.60 | ||
Total | $860.15 |
I must point out: Observe all safety precautions - especially using an approved respirator and eye protection with side shields - when applying any railroad finish.
Lettering GN 1213 was done using removal vinyl stencils, cut by a sign maker and supplied on transfer paper to maintain proper alignment and letter spacing. The font is Ben Coifman's "Empire Builder Font 1.2". The capital letters in the standard font compared best to GN lettering blueprints. Letter spacing is equal to the letter height, although the "P", "T" and "L" have negative space which requires a closer spacing to look right. This kerning (tweaking the letter spacing) was done by hand with GN "In Color" books for reference. Word spacing is three times letter height. I was startled to notice the GN changed the letter spacing at some point. There were wide- and narrow-spaced versions applied. I used the wide spacing on 1213. The "L" had to be changed - in car names it has a rounded corner, but in "EMPIRE BUILDER" it has a square corner.
It is also interesting that there is no standard height for the pin stripes. The best rule of thumb I've found is to put gold stripes two inches above and below the window cutouts. Adjust everything above and below to fit. Lettering is always centered vertically between stripes. In the 1951 Empire Builder, the ACF and Pullman cars have different window heights! The Pullman car's windows are installed about 3/4" higher on the car.
For my own future reference, here's what worked, and mistakes to avoid:
I had a little time for "token" work on 1146:
A friend alerted me to an ACF sleeper that was being scrapped. (ACL "Manatee River", at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay.) Hoping to find restoration hardware, we loaded tools and paid a visit. I found a few parts worth salvaging:
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Memorial Day I continued removing air conditioning components. (Something I had started last October, after hashing out mechanical plans with Bob Jackson.) MTM has no spare A/C motors for 1213, so I'm trying to donate this to them. |
A reader asked about the finacial aspect of this project. He thought that would be great information for others who are considering a similar restoration effort. I prefer not to talk about my income, (if I were married and had kids, this project wouldn't be happening,) but don't mind mentioning major expenses:
Editorial comment: I've reached a very dangerous phase in this project (as far as the artifact is concerned.) Demolition to make way for the new is relatively easy. Putting things back together takes a lot more work, time, and money. Many people loose interest when they reach this point. To pull this off, I think one has to be crazy-in-love with trains, or able to pay someone else to do the work.
Railway Age magazine, mid-century, was great about reviewing each new streamlined passenger train introduced by the railroads. They consistently included floor plans, exterior and interior decoration, and vendors & equipment used. I had the good fortune of finding their review of the "International" and "Red River". It will be a great resource when deciding on interior materials and colors.
To my dismay, the Railway Age review suggests I made a mistake while repainting Great Northern 1213 for the museum. I thought it was entirely painted when new - no Scotchlite. The Railway Age article disagrees. It says the stripes were painted, but the lettering was always 3M ScotchLite. I thought I had done my homework!
Two friends wrote to say mine isn't the only car whose roof makes popping noises. It's nice to know I don't have a unique problem!
A three-phase replacement motor for the kitchen exhaust hood took a lot of finding. (Odd grammar? I'm quoting "Stardust" by Neil Gaiman.) The smallest I can find is 1/4 hp - double the existing - A.O. Smith model H1026 from Grainger. Given the motor's position in the charcoal stove's exhaust stream, having a sealed motor is important. All motors I've looked at have a different shaft diameter, so some adaptation will be necessary. I'll probably buy the necessary control/protection equipment from Automation Direct, who has good prices.
I have just a small bit of actual work to report. In the range hood duct, the bottom is sealed and I'm working on the side. Ten years from now, I'll know whether this was a good idea or not! The alternative would have been busting every rusted screw, removing the assembly, and welding in a new side and bottom. | |
Joints have been caulked with 3M seam sealant. Next: Sand the patch on the left flat, install a new baffle strip on the bottom, and paint with POR-15. That will probably happen in August. | |
A friend and I got some blower parts sandblasted, and painted with Duplicolor high-temp engine enamel from NAPA. Before, the blower was badly unbalanced. Large chunks of grease and dirt had accumulated, so I retested after sandblasting. Happily it is still very well balanced. | |
To fabricate a new Eliminator, I decided on spot-welded stainless, rather than slot-and-tab mild steel. Therefore, I bought this Miller LMSW-52 used and equipped it with short offset-tip tongs. I also changed the plug to match the museum shop outlets. This is a trial balloon: I live in a townhouse and don't have room at home for the shop tools that I'll need to procure. So, my idea is to buy and donate to the museum. Pros: I get 30% back on my income tax. Cons: If I ever part ways with the museum... |
While looking for blind rivets (below), I stumbled upon Southco's web site. Southco is the original equipment manufacturer for the screw-like fasteners on the rooftop vents, as well as the ceiling air diffusion grating inside the car. They're still in business and still selling those fasteners - cool!
How to repair the eave rot problem? I've given it some thought, and think I will have Cor-Ten sheet rolled to the right radius. These flush patches will extend from one rafter to the next, to avoid welding sheet whose thickness is reduced, though not yet rusted through. I'll spot-weld or plug weld a horizontal backing strip to existing material at the top. At the bottom rivet line, I'll replace the hot rivets with drive rivets for appearance. A couple potential rivet vendors are Hanson Rivet and Jay-Cee Sales & Rivet, Inc. The following drawings illustrate what I think happened inside, and my planned repair:
A friend who is an Amtrak inspector, and owns a few cars himself, agrees with the idea that condensate was probably the initial water source. The inside of the roof sheet was originally sprayed with "Ded-nox" - a tar and cork composite rust proofing, but that separated from the steel over time, leaving a hairline gap which will suck in water by capillary action.
I probably won't get the eaves patched this year (time & money), so to buy time I'll replace the existing temporary patches with self-adhesive roofing membrane.
I think I've found a water raising system air reservoir, to replace the one missing from my car. I'll be picking it up in mid-September.
I bought the 1/4 hp three-phase motor. It's smaller in every way - except twice as powerful - so I got the difference in shaft centerline height using this granite surface. | |
Not wanting to modify either the motor or existing blower parts, I had to couple a 3/4" stub shaft to the motor's 5/8" shaft. To minimize any "whipping" of the longer shaft, I added a support bearing. Mounting studs were welded on, with bracing, to jack the motor up to the correct height. With shaft extensions, the motor will be 1/2" from enclosure, so it has to be pre-wired. Finally, the old vibration dampeners were shot, so they were replaced. The replacements are a physical fit, but are designed for about three times the assembly's weight - we'll see how well that works. |
Purchased Materials for Blower | Vendor | Vendor's Part # |
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Motor 1/4 HP 60hz 3-phase Belt | Grainger | 4LY49 |
Two-Piece Clamp-on Shaft Coupling, Steel, with Keyway, 3/4" X 5/8" Bore | McMaster-Carr | 60845K57 |
Fully Keyed 1045 Steel Drive Shaft, 3/4" OD, 3/16" Keyway, 9" Length | McMaster-Carr | 1497K116 |
Mounted Ball Bearing | Grainger | 1A402 |
3/16" Square Oversize Zinc Plated Keystock | Fastenal | ??? |
Versa-Mount Bold-Down Vibration-Damping Mount, 3/8"-16 Thread, 50 lb Load Per Mount | McMaster-Carr | 6188K512 |
Manual Motor Starter 1.6amp 45mm Rotary | Automation Direct | BM3RHB-1P6 |
This October I'm going to host the slide show again. If possible, I'd like to have this exhaust hood blower installed, so that we can grill in the kitchen.
I may have stumbled upon a proper dining roof chair for 1146. A friend was in Bellevue, Ohio, and found it in the Bill Fuering collection. I haven't seen it yet, but have my hopes up.
The range hood exhaust duct had a filler strip to close the gap underneath the Eliminator. The new one is Cor-Ten left over from 1213, rust-proofed with POR-15, laid in a bed of 3M Seam Sealant, secured with 3/16" stainless pop rivets, and sealed all around. | |
The exhaust duct was rust-proofed with POR-15, then painted silver to simulate the original galvanized finish. The hard, glossy POR-15 I use is difficult for the finish coat to bond to, so I have a habit of letting it dry four to six hours. I spray the finish coat while it’s still a bit tacky. | |
Exterior view of the installed blower, during a test run. To finish, I still have to fabricate a new Eliminator and replace the Southco screws on the louvered cover. | |
Testing the blower, interior view. While everything was out, I thoroughly cleaned the enclosure, and re-attached the stainless ceiling sheet to the plywood sub-ceiling. Next: Fabricate a junction box, install conduit to the range light, and wire. | |
The drip strips above doors are merely riveted to the roof sheet. I’m caulking top & sides with Seam Sealant. Patching eave rot is at about 75%. | |
Here’s the air reservoir I acquired from an old GM&O coach. This is tee’d off the air supply to the water reservoir. I’ll hydro test it at 125% brake pipe pressure, clean & paint it, and replace the missing plumbing before installing it. | |
This is the dining room chair from the Fuering estate. It was made by General Fireproofing in April 1946 for the Norfolk & Western, but is the correct style for 1146. | |
I’ve mentioned that, when MTM acquired GN 1224, we found the dining-room end door from 1146’s twin on it. It occurred to me that people might like to see it. The back side is badly burned. |
In the last month, three readers have written with some excellent history of 1146’s Amtrak and Burlington Northern service. I highly recommend it to any history buffs. The Amtrak section also gained pictures of Amtrak articles which were still in 1146 when I bought it.
The slideshow was on October 21st. Once a year I take a turn hosting, and with the range once again usable, a bit of fun was in order! In addition to the slide show group, I invited friends from work, the museum, a couple modelling circles I'm connected with. Afterwords, I counted 28 dirty plates. Not bad!
For fun, I used authentic GN placemats. (Well, 11x17 color photocopies of one.) One car owner in the group, who worked for the GN as a third chef in 1962, remembered that "They used these for all foodservice in the 1960's. The only exception was the diners had white linen tablecloths." Two retired Amtrak station agents got to discussing linens ("expensive to launder") vs. the paper tablet table covers Amtrak uses today. Dawn Holmberg Photo | |
Stuart grew up around live steam, so he really understands the charcole stove. It's got a firebox, grates, ashpan... He's also good at grilling meat. Dawn Holmberg Photo | |
I like this photo Phil captured with his cell phone. It really hints at what's going on in the firebrick-lined firebox of a charcole stove. Over the course of three hours, it consumed two large bags of Kingsford and got the ovens over 200 degrees. The firebox is centered between the ovens. Note the Vise-grip grate shaker. Phil Wellman Photo | |
I'm showing a Coke can which I found in the leg of the far-right table. Its soldered steel with aluminum ends, and has an offer which expires in "November 30, 1972." Dawn Holmberg Photo | |
Phil brought his own steak to grill, and it turned out really well. This was the first opportunity I've had to use the Amtrak china, and I found some inexpensive glass tumblers and wine glasses at Target. Next year hopefully I'll find real silverware. Phil Wellman Photo | |
"Turntable", the roundhouse cat, was hoping to help with the leftovers. One of the evening's funnier moments was when, walking along the window ledge behind people eating, she jumped down into the bench seats to explore, then popped back out and really surprised someone. (Ok, had to be there...) Dawn Holmberg Photo | |
Dawn brought her night photo equipment, and took a few pictures of 1146. She put her Nikon on a tripod, opened the shutter, and walked around "painting" it with flashbulbs. The steps are arranged to enter via the dining room, then we progressed to the theater. Since the vestibule steps are off, a stepladder served for emergency egress. Dawn Holmberg Photo | |
This may be 1146's first time ever doing a night photo shoot. If anyone's wondering, it was pulled out so that sparks from the stove wouldn't set the 101-year old roundhouse on fire. Dawn Holmberg Photo | |
Opposite side. By the way, I may have proof that 1146 was never painted "Big Sky Blue". There are photos of one in blue, but the number isn't visible. However, there's a photo in the history section of 1146 still in Empire Builders colors in late 1970, well after they switched from blue to Cascade Green, so I conclude it was never painted blue. Darn - I was starting to like it. Dawn Holmberg Photo | |
Having people enter via the dining room allowed the screen to be pushed back, and we fit a larger crowd in the "theater". Dawn Holmberg Photo |
A couple technical disappointments occured during the slide show: The ballast on a fluorescent light in the hallway - an old one I never replaced - burned out. Also I discovered some of my main night/emergency light wiring in the electrical cabinet is too small - it was definitely warm to the touch. More work...
Back to work: Amtrak cut off the weather-vane hood above the kitchen ceiling fan, replacing it with a stainless cover. I wanted to do a better job than just caulking around it, so I got down to bare metal then painted with POR-15 and dark green from a spray-can. Note rust damage to the roof sheet at lower right. The roof sheets are only .075" thick. Sorry 'bout the dust on the camera lense. | |
Amtrak's cover, upside down. I've already got the tar off the edging. They used window screen, held by spot-welded strips, which had fallen out. I didn't have time to replace it. | |
The cover was reapllied with generous amounts of 3M Automotive Seam Sealant and large-head, 3/16" aluminum pop rivets. Note the lift - I prefer having something to fall onto when working close to the edge of a passenger car roof. |
The kitchen window can't be installed due to rust damage, and sealing it up has been problematic. First I used painted plywood with rope caulk - water got into the end grain and the caulk leaked. Then weatherguard over the top, but wrinkles kept it from sealing completely. So, take it off and try again - after a summer inside, there was still water trapped! | |
After cleaning off loose paint and rust, POR-15 and weatherguard. Note I'm applying 3M Automotive Seam Sealant to the edge of the weatherguard with my finger, trying to seal the edge. | |
I didn't go to lunch until getting stuck waiting for paint to dry. When I returned, 1146 was outside! (Talk about cutting it close.) So, the kitchen window was finished outside. That enabled this artsy shot of GN 1096 out the kitchen window. Seen through 1096, GN 1084 "Twin Ports" and GN heater car 16 make cameos. The Jackson Street Roundhouse is literally only yards away from the GN's Mississippi Street coach yards, so this is almost historical. |
To all my readers and friends who have helped me locate restoration hardware and historical documents for 1146: Thank you! Your help really helps.
Found, but not yet arrived, are ACF painting and plan diagrams (seller's photo) for the coach-diners and observation cars of the "International" (orange and green,) as well as two photographs of those cars running together in Amtrak colors in the Twin Cities.
A reader found this for sale on e-Bay, and pointed it out. It's an exact fit for the missing builder's plate. | |
MTM is sprucing up GN business car A11 this winter. Work includes replacing one set of back platform steps, which got crunched and then straightened out. To roll the edge, I found some 4"x4"x1/4" L-channel, cut it into two equal lengths, and welded a 1/2" schedule-80 pipe to the edge of one. Add heavy steel for legs, Bolts for initial clamping, and we have a die for forming rolled edges. We used 1/8" steel sheet, and allowed 1 1/2" for the rolled portion. I plan to use this tool for 1146, and several of the museum's other cars. |
Beyond some small parts cleaning, there's not much actual work to report.
I just discovered this on YouTube - a family visited "Santa's Train Shop" at the museum, took a ride on 1096 - and look what's in the background!